Kitchen Remodel ~ Demo Day ~ Part 4 Fixing The Three Way
Kitchen Remodel ~ Demo Day ~ Pt 4 Fixing The 3 Way
Published 11/13/2019
The cabinets in the way of the new range are gone. There is that little problem of the open wires on the 3 way switch. Guess I better fix that.
Working on live wires can be done. I would rather not. Working in the dark on dead wires isn’t much better. What can I do to fix that problem? 😆😎
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You can repair or replace anything. Not me. Very nice job.
THANK YOU…for sharing. It works 🙂
Good job! You can actually hear how brittle that electrical tape you remove is…which is why Wire Nuts are better and to be used per Code. Though I will admit, electrical tape has improved a lot too. I had a Three-Way that was incorrectly wired when we moved in to our last house…took me watching YT Video and a continuity tester to get it sorted out.
How's she goin'? That looks a lot better!!! Pretty fancy switch plate!!! Take care!!
Not every combination won't work, but it won't work like you expect. There are several three way switches around work that are wired, but not what I would call properly. One room has four (pairs of) switches to control four separate lights. No rhyme or reason I can fathom as to which switch controls which light. The switches by each door are in two gang boxes (one above/below by one door, side by side at the other), and if all switches are up (or down) at one door, they will be three up, one down (or vise versa) at the other. Another room has two pairs of light switches, and one of the switches is upside down as well. Plus, the switch nearest each door controls the lights furthest away.
I don't know how many times I have considered rewiring those switches myself. But I don't know where the breakers are, and probably wouldn't have the key to get in the room if I did know. So I would have to work on live wiring. And I am still occasionally tempted. But, I am not an electrician, that type of wiring is nowhere in my job description, and someone would likely complain if the switches were made right.
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We have a 3-way switch on the Kitchen light. I wired it back in 06 with the remodel, which ever switch is turned off that is the one you have to turn it on with. The switches are only 12' apart and I have Momma trained so I can't change the wires and fix them or she would be confused. It's just a lot easier to just leave them for the next owner down the line. YOU did a good job Lydia will love it, can't wait to see the new paint, cabinets and that extra fancy counter top.
There's always one of the screws on a three way that's a different color. That one is always 'common' to the other two. Now….I would NEVER recommend it but…..if a fellow was to not remember how the wires go…(I saw a guy do it one time…yeah, that's it) but you can momentarily turn on the power and whichever wire turns on the light by touching each of the other two (one will cause it to come on right now and the other one will after the opposing three way switch is thrown) is the one that goes on the 'common' terminal. But I know you already know this technique….I was just showing off for your other subscribers. LOL. Not that I have ever done it myself mind you….. Of course I'm sure there's at least one situation where that WON't work.
Now I'm going to tell you an Old Sneelock Story: I'm sitting at lunch on a jobsite about 15 maybe 20 years ago. The conversation got around to electricity and then to three way switches AFTER a lengthy discussion on antique tractors. This old guy (he was in his early 60's at the time and a fellow pipefitter) said his rental house where his son lives has a set of three ways that he cannot figure out. He said he bought ten of the little four pack yellow face screw in fuses and had only one left !! He said if I'd stop by and figure it out for him he would GIVE ME TWO OF THE OLD TRACTORS at his little farm out of town a ways. So guess what….we stopped by that evening and after surveying the scene and identifying all the wires in the attic junction box as well as in the two switch boxes I went ahead and made the connections and I tell you I thought the old guy way going to poop his pants with joy!! Roughly thirty minutes start to finish and plans were being made for the weekend trips to his little farm to pick up TWO Massey Harris 44's. One complete and one with the motor removed and disassembled !! Most productive little favor I ever did for a co-worker.
The hardest part was identifying the wires. They were the old and faded colored wires that have a thin interwoven covering of light stringy material. I actually had to slice the insulation back about a sixteenth of an inch to expose the color of the rubber (?) insulation. Once that was done it was over in just a few minutes and I ended up with two tractors and a friend for life !! Sadly he is no longer with us, but his tractors and memory live here with me now.