How To Replace Polybutylene Water Piping | Ask This Old House
Richard travels to Raleigh, North Carolina to help a homeowner replace the leaky polybutylene pipes throughout his house.
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Love his accent
Will PEX be the next plumbing product to fail?
12 years 2500+ homes? That's slightly over 1 home per business day
same thing with all this pvc cpvc and pex garbage. I will never buy a house with that junk. pvc for drains is one thing but anything but copper for supply lines is idiotic.
Jesus, that stuff has the same fittings and connections as PEX. One day there's going to be a plumber that does nothing but rip that stuff out houses…
Great work gentlemen.
I feel like in the 70s they did everything wrong. These and thinking electric heat was the future.
CPVC was a bad choice. PEX would have been better, Multilayered Aluminium core even better and pressed stainless steel piping best. I remodel one of my bathrooms right now and only use stainless. The untouched part of the house is 40 year old galvanized steel. Even though it has a rather bad reputation, every part I cut out looked fine inside with only a thin rustfilm and I never had a leak.
Excuse me , what glue did you use for the pvc pipe? TKS
Lawsuit Investigation for
CPVC Pipe Failure
September 20, 2017
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AT A GLANCE
This Alert Affects:
Anyone who had issues with their FlowGuard Gold CPVC pipes.
What’s Going On?
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Replacing problem with another problem… Should of gone with pex. By the time cpvc had problems the owner probably dead.
Not too fan of plastic ! Copper is a time proven solution !! CPVC has toxic cancer causing chlorine in it !! Not too sure I want to drink that !
Christ this plumber is ducking horrible cpvc is worked than Polly lol job security I guess
That local plumber has a really soothing voice.
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Why are they not installing Pex with crimp rings??
Yes meanwhile repairing the ceilings is the bulk of the price
Good
Why not PEX ?
So replaced the PB with the next worse thing, CPVC. Smart.
I actually have a customer who bought a half million dollar home, in 2019, plumbed with cpvc. Made no sense to me at all.
I live close to the seattle area but we just put in a 2" polybutelene water main the other day
@ 4:29 No primer????
We changed all our poly with PEX, no gluing , and easier to feed new pipes , less cutting.
Gosh that bathroom is fugly
cpvc should be fine.
Why would you replace trash with another type of trash. Cpvc is a joke, over time becomes brittle and is affected by chemical s in potable water systems. Use PEX and become professional, cpvc is a joke!
Like every comment on here is about how insane it is to replace PB with CPVC, and I have nothing novel to add, but it's so insane I feel the need to take the time to write this comment about how insane it is, and waste the time of anyone who decided to read this.
Anyone have a recommended pb replacement team in AZ ?
Almost sounds like this was all planned…. Hmmmmm
bah hahahaha. hilarious
This stuff should have been tested better. Hind sight is almost always 20/20.
When he glued the CPVC pipe to the fittings, he didn't even clean the pipe and fittings with primer; that's a no-no.
CPVC is garbage too. Should have used PEX.
He didn't use any CPVC primer before the glue. What a hack!
alot of of leaks and failures of any pipe is due to pressure being to high….prv can save alot of headaches..
i have worked on few house n find out more about cpvc cant handle cold below 30f if get freezed will brake easily and ended up having to replace it aging n aging n i tell them switch over to pex and never have issues pass 20 years *been working on plumber for 19 years" and knowing cpvc is nightmare for cold weather and pex outlasted both of them
only grey water line is bad build quality back in 70s to 2000s they all switch to cpvc later switch to pex never seen issues with pex they not same is other things
Why not just use pex?
CPVC is total garbage
Why use CPVC instead of PEX? Also have a mobile home with PB and its from 1995 is that pipe ok vs stuff from 70s? Thx
DUMB. Use PEX. Easier, faster, better.
I just fear this will be shark bite in 10 years!
Cpvc? I wouldn't bury it in my yard to use for lawn watering.
Good lord what a nightmare
Cpvc is just as bad!! Wtf
There gonna be ripping that crap out not to long from now. Might as well leave the drywall off
Job security I guess
Imagine if it was ran under a slab
Why didn't you use pex?
And now CPVC is obsolete….
as a builder … i too make money repairing "the best building practice" from 5-10 years ago. unbelievable how so many "new and better" ways fall to crap so fast
I have a 1998 house with CPVC and its become super brittle and there's like a 50-50 chance that it shatters if you try to cut it. If you leave it alone it's mostly okay, but I had one joint start leaking this past year, luckily it was in the basement but I want to get rid of this place before something worse happens.
I would never replace Polybutylene with CPVC. That is simply getting rid of todays problem and pushing them down the road. The only two materials that I would ever use for waterlines would either be PEX or Copper, anything else is simply asking for issues….
I have homes I have gone into that are only 20 years old and the CPVC is so brittle that it breaks with the slightest movement. Here are just a few issues typically found with CPVC… 1.) Since glue will degrade over time, CPVC pipes are more likely to shift and start leaking. 2.) As CPVC pipes age, they become more brittle and can shatter or crack with a slight impact. 3.) When CPVC pipes are burned, they release toxic fumes.
So, why in the hell would anyone want to use CPVC!
Nice job…
3/4 to the last 2 fixture supplies. Thanks roger
I'm glad I live in a ranch. If my copper pipe ever has problems I can just go down to the basement and fix it without cutting any drywall
Did you repaper the bathroom???
Cpcv is just as bad. 5 years later that pipe gets extremely brittle.
Lol he will have plenty of business later that’s why he is not using pex
this will be another video in 30 years about pex being the pipes of the future lol
Love the guys southern accent. I wonder if cost was the reason for not using PEX?
Christ……just run copper line and be done with it
Poor quality plumber. He barely glued the middle leg of the T fitting. It will leak, eventually. https://youtu.be/2ALEi8EqkGs?t=296
Jeff has the most calming voice I've ever heard, get that man some sasparilla
With his accent alone this guy could sell a blind man reading glasses
The plumber is that guy in a yellow jacket rubbing his hands meme.
Good idea to replace that old Qwest piping. But I''m not a fan of his decision to re-pipe it with cpvc.
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poly lines has to be the most pos thing ever invented. just hearing its name makes me want to kick the inventors teeth in.
No air chambers .Leaving the old faucet .It seemed that wrong size pipe to distribute water etc.Maybe due to cost factors .
Replacing junk with junk.
The guy sounds like he eats the Polybutene pipes he takes outta the homes
why cpvc vs pex or copper
This video will be about PEX in 10 or 20 years
The 70’s was a dark time for plumbing. I can imagine the contractors who had to install that crap. Did they get sued in the 80’s?
Cpvc. Wow. Well that’s one way to create work I guess.
I’m nearby in Fayetteville!
Replacing all those pipes is gonna be an insane amount of work
The builders saved maybe 300 dollars using polybutylene instead of copper. Pure greed.
I’m Xander
What’s wrong with copper pipe? Ok, yeah it’s more expensive, but better then replacing your drywall every 10-15 years!
I don’t care what kind of pipe you put in……they all will leak at some point. The days of professional plumbers using copper has all but come to an end due to time of installation and cost of materials. Builders won’t pay for it. I have a home in Georgia that has polybutylene that was built in 1983. To this day no leaks. Water pressure is 62 to 64. Water bill runs anywhere from $18.00 to $24.00 a month for the last 8 years. Some insurance companies will not cover home with this material.
What the heck? Go from one plastic to another… I thought this was copper…or at least galvanized iron….what a waste of time and money. You open up all the walls and ceiling and go for that nonsense.
On earlier pvc and cpvc jobs I've seen a primer used but here it looks like just a cement was used. Is this something new?
Pvc is approved for cold water supply as well as dwv.
Good
Like how he soldered to that valve without removing the cartridge, the next plumber will fight to get it out.
and why didn't your home inspector tell you that ??